Just would like to have a discussion on the topic. I’ve purchased around 20ish movies/shows on Vudu, and my wife has grown to be unhappy with Vudu’s UI and especially how the watch progress works. I am curious what some others thoughts on this are. My initial thoughts are I recognize I’ve purchased a license to watch the content, but feel that because I’ve purchased it I should have the right to retain total control over it and do what I please. I would like to purchase movies on physical media from now on, but wouldn’t like to repurchase all the same movies and shows again when I’ve already paid for them
Is it wrong to pirate {anything}
No.
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You could also get it via annas archive: https://annas-archive.org/md5/b121f6196830860e8c5e4a04b129a987
::: you can download it off internet archive
you need:
- windows - maybe, ive only tried on windows
- internet archive account
- adobe digital editions
- calibre with alf’s de-drm plug-in
borrow the book
put this link into your browser and replace bookid with the identifier
https://archive.org/services/loans/loan/?action=media_url&identifier=BOOKID&format=pdf&redirect=1you should get acsm file open it in adobe digital editions you now have drm-protected pdf in my documents/my digital editions/
add this pdf to calibre (with the plug in installed)
now you have drm-free pdf
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easier solution - just search it up with a book search engine
Legally, it is illegal. Ethically, I think you’re fine. If you pay for something you should be allowed to use the thing.
I feel like that basic interpretation of the law probably predates the code of Hammurabi.
In america you are legally allowed backups of any software you’ve bought.
Can I backup my computer software?
Yes, under certain conditions as provided by section 117 of the Copyright Act. Although the precise term used under section 117 is “archival” copy, not “backup” copy, these terms today are used interchangeably. This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works. Under section 117, you or someone you authorize may make a copy of an original computer program if the new copy is being made for archival (i.e., backup) purposes only; you are the legal owner of the copy; and any copy made for archival purposes is either destroyed, or transferred with the original copy, once the original copy is sold, given away, or otherwise transferred.
That applies to things you legally own. Digitally purchased items are leased to you; you do not own them. So that cutout to copyright law does not apply to digital goods.
This is a corporate run late stage capitalism hell hole. Do whatever you want that doesn’t hurt people, unless they’re bad people.
Ethically spotless, yet still a crime.
Not necessarily - depends on the way of obtaining the file. Downloading a copyrighted video is not illegal (it’s fair use), sharing it with others is illegal. If they downloaded it directly without sharing, that’s perfectly legal.
nothing is wrong with piracy
No, because artificial scarcity is immoral.
The real crime is paying for content to begin with /s
I think it’s more wrong how writers make pennies while the fat suits at Hollywood make even more absurd amounts of money. Fuck them. Pirate.
Intellectual property doesn’t exist, so no, not wrong at all.
It’s never wrong to pirate movies.
There’s a couple angles you can take on this. My favourite is from the dotCommunist Manifesto:
Society confronts the simple fact that when everyone can possess every intellectual work of beauty and utility—reaping all the human value of every increase of knowledge—at the same cost that any one person can possess them, it is no longer moral to exclude.
Essentially, this argues that the unethical position is the one that creates the false scarcity.
Another less extreme position would be that many countries allow for exemptions for format shifting: if you buy a CD with some music, you’re legally permitted to rip it so long as you don’t distribute copies. One could argue that someone in your position is operating within the spirit of these laws… provided that you haven’t torrented the videos since that necessarily includes some partial distribution.
Finally, the least generous interpretation would point out that you didn’t buy the videos in the first place, but rather a licence to let Vudu stream them to you. Given that you don’t own anything, you’re not morally entitled to own it in a different format. This is why many people have rejected the streaming model.
As someone in camp #1, I think you’re a-ok ethically, but I thought you might want a broader perspective.
Very nicely summarized!
I’ve never seen a more flawless answer
You’re asking this in a community that’s specifically about doing piracy. Pretty hard to take your question seriously in this context.
Well I just didn’t see any harm in feeling out a lot of different pirates opinions to see some different perspectives I maybe didn’t think of.
One of the rights we are continually trying to claw back from the IP Maximalist lobby (and their minions in office) is the right to enjoy the media you own in a format available to you.
However, the studios and labels like taking another bite of the apple by releasing new versions, or versions in new formats, sometimes twice as they release better versions that correct for bad transfers (e.g. the lightsaber problem with the early blu-ray release.)
Hollywood has established though repeated bad-faith behavior, it’s not interested in getting your money legitimately or while retaining a positive customer experience, but extracting your money any way they can.
The DMCA forbids breaking DRM even for legal or non-copyright violating reasons (which is how we lost the right to repair or even jailbreak phones). And they could use this to prevent you from converting formats of your media to one you can actually use, but they’d have to make a stretchy case in court.
Sony also overcharges for scratched or failed media, so they’ve been caught treating their stuff as licenses or media when it legally suits them.
PS: Illegal ≠ Wrong. LGBT+ people are not grooming children, but religious ministries are.
Yeah it’s crazy how much the world has changed even in my short lifetime, especially with the mass adoption of digital media. It’s going to be so difficult for people to retain their rights to what they purchase.
In the US: you are legally allowed to have a backup copy of any media you have (digital -> physical, physical -> digital, or any other match up). Since you own the physical copy of these movies, this means you’re allowed to have the digital one as a backup.
Your physical disks are encrypted, and breaking said encryption to make a copy is technically illegal. Downloading the files from somewhere is not illegal, but sharing them is.
With all that said, if you own the disk, and either download or torrent without seeding, you’re well within your rights legally.
Your other option is to use Handbrake or another disk ripping software, along with dvdcss or aacs and rip your disks yourself.
In the US: you are legally allowed to have a backup copy if any media you have (digital -> physical, physical -> digital, or any other match up). Since you own the physical copy of these movies, this means you’re allowed to have the digital one as a backup.
Minor caveat: US law allows for a backup that you made from your own original medium. CD/DVD rips are ok, but downloading from torrents is still legally no bueno.
https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html - for reference if anyone is curious.
It’s not even wrong to pirate movies you don’t own and put them on your plex server
kinda funny how gaming pirates and movie pirates differ. Gaming pirates always say buy it if you like it.
Try to make a proper comparison (Hollywood is massive and the studios and co. are shit) and phrase it with EA, Ubisoft or Blizard, I bet game pirates won’t agree with you whatsoever!
Personally I like Indies more than H🤑ll¥w©©d
